Object Duplication

458 · Post by **458** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:17 pm

In an engine I'm working on, I kind of need a reliable way to duplicate objects. Obviously, I could just have a duplicator in one place and use the "feel along the walls" method to have the original get to it, but this has disadvantages:

1) Duplicator noise
2) annoying, specialized programming to find duplicator
3) it jams up if more than one object uses it.

Any other ideas for object replication, or fixes for the disadvantages of the "easy" way?

Ryan Ferneau · Post by **Ryan Ferneau** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:24 pm

I dunno... If you can get the timing exactly right, you might be able to make another object play a rest every time the duplicator duplicates.

Zephyr · Post by **Zephyr** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:16 am

Elaborate - What are you trying to duplicate? Can't you just use a #put command? You can do that even if it's STK; Look in the ZZT Encyclopedia. It tells you all about it.

superbowl shuffle · Post by **superbowl shuffle** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:24 am

If the object that is duplicated is supposed to find its way to the duplicator, then

Okay, after reading your problem again I've decided I have no idea what you're talking about. It's not possible to duplicate an object without a duplicator, but since what you want to do seems more complicated, there may be an alternative. You need to explain just what you want to do.

Commodore · Post by **Commodore** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:42 am

@mutething
#cycle 1
#play sx
/i
#restart

Or something like that can get rid of duplicator noise.

If you're trying to duplicate a programable object then you need a duplicator. Other wise like said above, you can have an object #put a gem or a lion or a key or ammo or whatever.

Zephyr · Post by **Zephyr** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:54 am

What would happen if you tried to duplicate a duplicator? MY BRAIN HURTS.

Ryan Ferneau · Post by **Ryan Ferneau** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:17 am

I tried it once. It worked.

66 · Post by 66 » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:55 am

1) Duplicator noise

You could use the silencer, but if you'd play music in the meantime that'd do just the same thing. I don't know a way of tweaking a dupe to become silent of it's own

2) annoying, specialized programming to find duplicator

why find a dupe? you could just have 1 dupe for each object and leave the object there. then it'd only need to find it's way back/

3) it jams up if more than one object uses it

use multiple dupes.

Ryan Ferneau · Post by **Ryan Ferneau** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:50 pm

Find its way back? Why not just leave it trapped behind the wall forever? Or, if you wanted it to stop being duplicated at certain points in time, you could leave an extra space next to the object and send it a message to move out of the way of the duplicator when you don't need it.

66 · Post by 66 » Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:55 pm

that's about what I had in mind

53 · Post by 53 » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:52 pm

here's an idea
pust b :P
or tell the user to do that

105 · Post by **105** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:15 pm

If it helps, you can duplicated from a distance by modifying the xstep and ystep of a duplicator. There's more information on this in the KevEdit documention, I believe.

66 · Post by 66 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:38 am

In other words: ADVANCED TWEAKING
probably you'll find the ALT+T in kevedits documentation, but what to change is something different. If I'm correct you can just change the x and y step to some large values, then it'll duplicate from his location + the x/ystep to it's location - x/y step, but if you could find Nanobot, you better ask him since I'm not sure about whether it works at larger distances

53 · Post by 53 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:48 pm

You might be able to get a hold of Nano at the Mystical Winds Website

458 · Post by **458** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:03 am

Thanks, bitman. That should really help. Now if I can just get the OTHER bugs in my engine squashed dead....