WoZ 2006 #2
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- Quantum P.
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An entry will be classified as junk if it is either of extremely low quality or it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic (i.e., there isn't even an awkward insertion of the topic into the dialogue). Games that are of extremely low quality will not be seen by the public. Games that are brilliant but are completely off topic will not be judged or included in the contest compilation, but they will be released to the public in some form, and the author will be urged to upload their game to the Z2 archives.
If a game is even marginally on topic, it will be included in the judging, but it will lose points. When judging, I will take the following approach. I will assess how good the game is as a game; this score will be scaled according to how well I think the entry incorporated the topic. For example, if I would rank the game's relevance to the topic as 5/10, I would halve the game's score. Thus, entries that are barely on topic will likely receive scores lower than 1/10 (decimal scores will probably be used). They will be judged and distributed, but they will not win.
If I suspect that an entry was created for the sole purpose of messing with me or the system, I will disqualify it anyway, even if it is marginally on topic. For example, I will not accept an entry if it is obvious that you took some other game and changed some of the dialogue. To summarize: If you're honestly trying to participate, your game will be judged and distributed - otherwise, your entry will be disqualified.
If a game is even marginally on topic, it will be included in the judging, but it will lose points. When judging, I will take the following approach. I will assess how good the game is as a game; this score will be scaled according to how well I think the entry incorporated the topic. For example, if I would rank the game's relevance to the topic as 5/10, I would halve the game's score. Thus, entries that are barely on topic will likely receive scores lower than 1/10 (decimal scores will probably be used). They will be judged and distributed, but they will not win.
If I suspect that an entry was created for the sole purpose of messing with me or the system, I will disqualify it anyway, even if it is marginally on topic. For example, I will not accept an entry if it is obvious that you took some other game and changed some of the dialogue. To summarize: If you're honestly trying to participate, your game will be judged and distributed - otherwise, your entry will be disqualified.
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- Quantum P.
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Partly I said that because 24hozzt contests went better in their early years. And junk entries were allowed in early years. So maybe I thought there was some causality there.
Partly because I don't see why a puppy drowns every time somebody makes one. The rule seems archaic and I suspect that junk entries wouldn't be the same now anyway. The yellow borders with skeptisoft and nerto cameos that bring up the subject of gmaes and how qualified they are to fxi them have probably become quite unfashionable.
Mostly though I said that because fuck rules.
But you just do what your heart desires you cute little rascal.
Partly because I don't see why a puppy drowns every time somebody makes one. The rule seems archaic and I suspect that junk entries wouldn't be the same now anyway. The yellow borders with skeptisoft and nerto cameos that bring up the subject of gmaes and how qualified they are to fxi them have probably become quite unfashionable.
Mostly though I said that because fuck rules.
But you just do what your heart desires you cute little rascal.
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- Quantum P.
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Once again, I am totally flattered that a rule I made up is liked enough that it's actually being brought back for Quantum's WoZ. Seriously, that makes me feel all warm inside and stuff. :D
Anyway, my thought on junk entries: they are bad, because I have never seen someone make more than one entry total--even in my WoZ, in which I specifically spelled out in very big letters in the rules that you could have up to three. Thus, any junk entry is usually a sign that you could have gotten a quality entry, but you didn't, because they made a junk entry instead.
I saw it happen in MadTom's WoZ, where all I had to do to win was beat Jur, because he was pretty much the only other person whose entry was high-enough quality to be a contender. I then saw it happen again in Ando's WoZ, where all I had to do to win again was beat Nedemai, for the same reason. At MadTom's suggestion, I banned junk entries outright for mine, and all nine of my entries were legitimate! Granted, some were of obviously higher quality than others--I doubt anyone considered Metal Adidas' "Benny's" to be a serious contender to win it all, for example--but they all tried, and nine out of nine legitimate entries is absolutely outstanding compared to MadTom's and Ando's turnout.
Therefore, as MadTom said earlier,
Anyway, my thought on junk entries: they are bad, because I have never seen someone make more than one entry total--even in my WoZ, in which I specifically spelled out in very big letters in the rules that you could have up to three. Thus, any junk entry is usually a sign that you could have gotten a quality entry, but you didn't, because they made a junk entry instead.
I saw it happen in MadTom's WoZ, where all I had to do to win was beat Jur, because he was pretty much the only other person whose entry was high-enough quality to be a contender. I then saw it happen again in Ando's WoZ, where all I had to do to win again was beat Nedemai, for the same reason. At MadTom's suggestion, I banned junk entries outright for mine, and all nine of my entries were legitimate! Granted, some were of obviously higher quality than others--I doubt anyone considered Metal Adidas' "Benny's" to be a serious contender to win it all, for example--but they all tried, and nine out of nine legitimate entries is absolutely outstanding compared to MadTom's and Ando's turnout.
Therefore, as MadTom said earlier,
MadTom wrote:If Kjorteo's serious treatment of the contest is anything to go by, (banning junk entries) works.
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<Kjorteo> "yiff"
<gbelo> Wanna yiff.
<Kjorteo> yes
<gbelo> No no no.
<Kjorteo> "yiff"
<gbelo> Wanna yiff.
<Kjorteo> yes
<gbelo> No no no.
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- Quantum P.
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Unless there are any objections, the WoZ is still on for May 5-8, which puts it at a little less than a month away! Since we're fast approaching the date of the contest, I'd like to get the judging panel together sometime soon. If you're considering being a judge, speak up now.
Zenith, Jotz, and Fungahhh: are you guys still willing to judge?
Zenith, Jotz, and Fungahhh: are you guys still willing to judge?
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I'm totally out of gameplay ideas for now (those paying attention would notice that my previous entries were mostly clever engines with games wrapped around them) and I'm busy with work, as always. Therefore, I don't think I'll be able to compete.
I am interested in judging, because I'd feel bad totally not participating in any way whatsoever! And judging is better than nothing. It sounds like you've got judges already, but can I put myself on the waiting list or something should any of them back out?
I am interested in judging, because I'd feel bad totally not participating in any way whatsoever! And judging is better than nothing. It sounds like you've got judges already, but can I put myself on the waiting list or something should any of them back out?
"You're alive," said the maker, and smiled at the aardvark.
<Kjorteo> "yiff"
<gbelo> Wanna yiff.
<Kjorteo> yes
<gbelo> No no no.
<Kjorteo> "yiff"
<gbelo> Wanna yiff.
<Kjorteo> yes
<gbelo> No no no.