A question

53 · Post by 53 » Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:33 pm

Can ZZT open files while midgame? example, .doc, .wav?

464 · Post by **464** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:54 pm

... no..

If you use kevedit you can import .txt and a few other types for code.
I think you can do it with ZZTAE too but I'm not certain. Other than that, no.

But who knows? I'm seem to be wrong about everything else.

superbowl shuffle · Post by **superbowl shuffle** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:36 pm

You can view text files in a blue window without external editors. I don't remember how. That's it.

Commodore · Post by **Commodore** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:39 pm

yes, you can use a ! to view text files mid game.

!file.txt; Open the file.

I think that's it.

Post by **Dr. Dos** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:09 pm

!-file.txt;

464 · Post by **464** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:11 am

as I thought.. I was WRONG.

It seems I also have much to learn

My Liver Hurtz · Post by **My Liver Hurtz** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:32 am

You can also open text files from hyperlinks in the text files. So HA, the encyclopedia was wrong.

Post by **MadTom** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:44 am

It'd be handy if you could keep programming in the text files to conserve that precious board space. BUT YOU CAN'T

superbowl shuffle · Post by **superbowl shuffle** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:03 pm

I tried doing that. Now I have confirmation that it doesn't work.

Here's a question that I don't remember the answer to -- does #bind save space? I guess it makes the zzt file smaller, but once the #bind command runs, will the save file become big or what?

519 · Post by **519** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:04 pm

As far as I know, #bind x will make the object with the command run the program of object x. I noticed a decline in board file size after using it...

My Liver Hurtz · Post by **My Liver Hurtz** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:53 pm

oof oof oof wrote:I tried doing that. Now I have confirmation that it doesn't work.

Here's a question that I don't remember the answer to -- does #bind save space? I guess it makes the zzt file smaller, but once the #bind command runs, will the save file become big or what?

My guess is that it does save space, considering that when you #zap in a binded object, all objects that are binded to that are affected.

453 · Post by **453** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:47 pm

#bind does save space in the zzt file, the sav file, and during play.

in the zzt file you have your #bind command, then when you play the object's program is completely deleted and the pointer is set to point to the bound program, and in a savegame one object gets the program and all other objects with their pointer pointing to that same program have their program length words set to point to the object with the program.

Post by **MadTom** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:44 am

It would be neat if you could specify when you wanted a global #ZAP for all bound objects, or just that specific one, but since it directly copies the code for one object, I guess that's pretty much impossible.

Granted it does provide a bit more incentive to make things like object enemies more unique, since they have their own programs, but otherwise it's a waste of space.

Don't forget that you don't have to use #bind at the start of the program, though; you can #bind to another object at any time.

superbowl shuffle · Post by **superbowl shuffle** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:06 pm

I certainly wouldn't mind if there was a way to have objects #bind and have different names. In fact, I might learn to enjoy that.

518 · Post by **518** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:22 pm

Well, for that, all you can do is create multiple objects with the same programming and change their names :\

And you can set a global zap or bind, by using flags, but in the case of bind, objects programming cannot be carried "overseas" or to another board, so you would have to have an object with the original programming on every board, unless you want to waste even more space with a composer's engine.