Was wondering? Noob question!

shawnwilson · Post by **shawnwilson** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:01 am

Can you make a slime that you can't stop when you touch it. It just keeps pushing you? I want this so i can use blue slimes to flood a room and can't be stopped. This will increase the challenge later in the game. If anyone knows if this can be done let me know. I have not attempted yet. Also side note. I spend all day today taking all the stuff from STK and Zfiles and putting them all onto one level. Hope no one gets mad at me.

Commodore · Post by **Commodore** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:29 am

no you can't. I'd just try to make the slime fast and hope the player has no way of stopping it.

and no one will get mad, that's what stk and z-files are for (you'll make nadir smile i'm sure.)

Post by **Zenith Nadir** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:37 am

for the record, i'd be more than happy to put out another z-files if people made a bunch more toolkits

i did officially announce 2.5 as the final version, but it's not my own choice. you know how it is.

nps · Post by **nps** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:03 pm

stop using toolkits, only idiots like nadir use toolkits, just use kevedit: jeez. take my zzt advice as i am a respected member of the community.

shawnwilson · Post by **shawnwilson** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:13 pm

I have not tried Kev edit or the other one yet because I do not really know
how much better it is.

Post by **Zenith Nadir** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:08 pm

why must we fight

why can't kevedit and zzt toolkits live together in peace

InfoSponge · Post by **InfoSponge** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:23 pm

man, fuck kevedit

shawnwilson · Post by **shawnwilson** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:03 pm

So kev edit just basically has all the toolkits in it? I really wanna know the difference between them. I should just download it. I have no problem using zzt and toolkits because zzt is where it all started at. Its where my respect lies. Besides anything I make won't be that spectacular. i guess i should just download the kev edit just to see what I am missing.

shawnwilson · Post by **shawnwilson** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:42 pm

Ok I took a look at kev edit just now. I am not sure how i feel about it. It seems to make the blinks and color blends simple. It also has stuff in it i don't understand.
Monitor? Don't have a clue what this would do....
Board edge? What you can put a board edge in the middle of the board or something? is that what this does? Plus horizontal blink and vertical blink?
I am sure this is all in its help file. Since learning is only fun sometimes I am gonna say that now that im comfortable with the stks and zzt 3.2 i really don't want to get into the kev edit right now.

I am gonna shy away from this for now. Although who knows what the future holds. I am gonna stick with what the newbie guide says. After I make a few games and want to learn more then Ill go into kev edit.

shawnwilson · Post by **shawnwilson** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:47 pm

Oh wow... you cant play test the games in it? Wow... this is not for me. I have to play test everything I do in zzt because I am such a noob. Plus in the long run i think using zzt and the stk would take about the same time as using kevedit and i have the ability to play test right away. Maybe only good for layout out the groundwork to your levels... i dunno.

InfoSponge · Post by **InfoSponge** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:29 pm

i believe the classically heralded advantages of kevedit are as follows:
1. copy + paste
2. extended palette/"eye dropper tool" (idunno what to call it. the pattern that is set with 'enter')

A monitor, I believe, has something to do with determining that the Title Screen (which is just a board, really) is in fact the Title Screen)

Board edges are great great great great great! They let you put the edge of a board (the space you walk into that makes you travel to the next board in that direction) anywhere on a board, not just an edge. Super useful, comes in all sorts of colors. I think it's somewhere in the ZZT Encyclopædia.

shawnwilson · Post by **shawnwilson** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:42 am

Thanks for the info. Yea I got the encyclopedia. Ill be looking into that.

Commodore · Post by **Commodore** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:32 am

press "r" in kevedit to test your world. make sure you save and make sure kevedit has been extracted to the same directory as zzt.

shawnwilson · Post by **shawnwilson** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:15 am

Oh. Yea I am construction my first game under zzt 3.2 for now. I am not against kev edit. I am sure ill be playing around with that to. I'm getting into more stuff a little every day. Does the encyclopedia have pretty much everything you can do with zzt oop in it? I wouldn't be surprised if it did. There is a lot of information to absorb in it. I have been able to do everything I want so far.

The only thing is I can't make a object die and place a key in the spot it was. In case something is against a wall and cant place a key or item. I just make it seek the player then place the key opposite. That will have to do for now.

So far I am just working on a puzzle type game with a decent plot. Each room has to deal with the elements. I am guessing it wont have any oop in it you guys have not seen before but maybe people will cut me some slack because its my first game.

nps · Post by **nps** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:11 am

#become red key

substitute the word "red" for any zzt-acceptable colour of your choosing.