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superbowl shuffle · Post by **superbowl shuffle** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:14 am

A good classic style zzt game is Raiders of the Lost Gem. Koopo the Lemming is bitchin too.

Scribbit · Post by **Scribbit** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:40 pm

I played You vs Stupidity 2, and it's a decent game but uses a custom font and is rather long. I like that, but I'm not sure it'd be a good game to include in a funpack for new players, and the AKparticle references lost me pretty quickly and gave me the same feeling some of the first games I played did: That there was some more complicated thing going on in this mess of references and that I didn't belong here.

Post by **zamros** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:15 am

jesus 2035

Scribbit · Post by **Scribbit** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:42 am

Yeah, like that. Also, I finally played Frost, so I'm pretty sure I get "Fox tampons" and the Nadir is a graphix gawd ones. Also, when I started PortalZZT, at first I didn't know where to post it because the "Projects" board had text under it saying it was actually about Fungahhh. You guys are awesome and all, but imagine how many people gave up before I did and never joined z2. We should spread the word to potential ZZTers, but we should also be ready to welcome people who wander in here on their own.

Also, who thinks Burglar is worth including in the FunPack? I'm a little hesitant to include something that might offend some people, but there's probably a decent number of people that would play a game if they thought they were the bad guys and also it's a great puzzle game. My current thoughts on the FunPack are:

Aura
Burger Joint
Burglar/ESP
[Some classic style like Caves or City]
Chrono Wars I-X (I know the first few aren't that great and there's a couple others that come later but there should be a clear beginning and ending so as not to leave people in potentially endless suspense)
Frost? Or another art game?
Kudzu (or another "atmosphere" game)

And a new game designed specifically as an introduction to ZZT for all the people who want instructions. There'd be overviews of the gameplay, hints on making your own games, and links to z2. A little idealistic of me, but if I finish compiling the FunPack I could make a teaching game like that. I've shown people ZZT and have them have no clue how to shoot, how ricochets work, what torches are for, etc. I think that there should be a special introduction for people who don't intuitively mash buttons until something happens (or nerds like myself who read the readme and the status bar).

Also: what's "Trippy?" I used to think it meant "Terribly pointless and also no STK" but I've seen some exceptions to that definition.

Schroedingers Cat · Post by **Schroedingers Cat** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:03 am

If you don't want offensive games in the "funpack," be sure to include Teen Priest by Draco. Edible Vomit, by the same author is good too.

Also, add all of the featured games.

...My arrow keys have stopped working.

Post by **Zenith Nadir** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:54 am

i really should rerelease frost 1 with a tampon-free rewrite

gingermuffins · Post by **gingermuffins** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:35 am

Obscure historical baggage and poop humour is now part of ZZT whether we like it or not. When I see a catalog of nonexistant games or references to people I don't know, it's kind of annoying, but whatever, these weren't made for me/you/us. (2000 games can hold a lot of injokes)

anyways, games

The Mercenary - fun nonlinear hack n' slash, and later on, a shooter. great bosses.

Death - a fun make-believe 1st person shooter, longer than Lebensraum and full of crazy stuff. the only problem is that if you shoot #cycle 3 enemies too quickly most of your shots won't register :(

Post by **Zenith Nadir** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:21 pm

yeah, _death_ is pretty crazy and sometimes genuinely creepy if a bit incoherent plot-wise, definitely recommended

Commodore · Post by **Commodore** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:41 am

I think boulder xod would probably have some appeal to players unfamiliar with the gameplay mechanics of zzt, since it only involves moving.

now a little bit drunker now.

Scribbit · Post by **Scribbit** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:26 pm

Sorry for the thread necromancy, I just realized I never posted my proposed list of games for the funpack.

Aura
BoulderXod
Burger Joint
Evil Sorcerer's Party
Frost 1
Run-on
Town of ZZT

and a new game I'm making just for this purpose, which I'm calling "A New Player's Guide to ZZT" until I think of a better name. Today I dug it out and made the main menu.

I think this particular combination of games will be enough to give a feel for ZZT's gameplay, and I plan to refer to ZEOL and Syndrome in my guide, in the 'making your own games' section.

This compacted weapon can then be dropped out of areoposts onto unsuspecting gaming forums, where the residual curiosity may result in an increased rate of ZZTers.

elninbo · Post by **elninbo** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:35 pm

well I'm here, so it must be working.

Commodore · Post by **Commodore** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:19 am

just for curious, how'd you finds us?

elninbo · Post by **elninbo** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:19 am

was thinking of the game recently...googled zzt...and then actually found the magazine i had uploaded about 5 years ago. It's terribly embarrassing.

elninbo · Post by **elninbo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:44 am

this board is truly un-active

Commodore · Post by **Commodore** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:36 am

true!