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Help Wanted: Advice on ZZM
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 12:09 am
by 394
Me and Daniel Hutson are making a game. We need music. NOW. Any experts here?
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:04 am
by 518
Not me, but I'll beta test when you're ready.
MOTP@tigerdrive.com
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:19 am
by Mooseka
BLAZE THE WEED OUT THERE
BLAZE THAT SHIT UP
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:26 pm
by 97
Basically just learn some basic music theory. Learn a major scale and a minor scale, and some chord progressions, and then just write something. Just search google for the terms I mentioned.
Or, here:
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C MAJOR:
C D E F G A B C
I II III IV V VI VII VIII / I
Okay, see the roman numerals? I, IV, and V sound good in any order, however, end with V - I.
e.g. I IV V V I IV I V I would probably sound okay.
This means, type #play cfggcfcgc
To make things more complex, scatter a few II, III, and VI around in there.
Then experiment with note lenghts to make something less monotone.
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:56 pm
by Ryan Ferneau
2-5-1! 2-5-1! All I needed to know I learned from 2-5-1!
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:21 pm
by 97
Ferneau, I just stared at your avatar in a mesmerized fashion for about three minutes... Untill I realized something was wrong...
VERY WRONG
The gun still spews bullets even when it doesn't have a flash coming from the muzzle, i.e. it uses ammo even when not shooting.
What a crappy gun.
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EDIT: I spent some more time looking at the actual gun, instead of his tight purple pants, and I realized that my above post is very wrong. SO never mind me.
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:06 pm
by Dr. Dos
Ijak is the head of the canadian military. He has over 15 soldiers!
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:36 pm
by MadTom
Fifteen? Man, Canada's becoming a major military presence.
It makes cent$!
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:26 am
by 394
So you're basicly saying use guitar chords?
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:54 pm
by 97
Well, uhm, music theory kind applies to chords and notes and everything...
But either way, I think zzm works on chords anyway. In some manual or another it says that the thingys aren't notes but chords.
BUT EITHER WAY IT WORKS.
(And there is no such thing as *guitar* chords. A chord is a chord no matter what you're playing it on)
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:01 am
by MadTom
The notes aren't chords. A
chord is the simultaneous playing of more than one note, usually at least three. The PC speaker can only play one note at a time, so to get a chord effect in ZZT you either have to alternate the notes very quickly, or use arpeggios.
Note alternation:
This plays the notes C, E, and G very quickly consecutively, giving a clear impression of the chord being played.
Arpeggio:
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#play icegcegcegcegceg, OR
#play iceg+c-ceg+c-ceg+c-ceg+c-ceg+c
This plays the notes of the chords in succession, which has a similar effect.
The 1-4-5 chordal pattern applies to the modal chords of a major scale,
not the notes themselves. If you're working in C major, that means the chords are C, (C-E-G), F (F-A-C), and G (G-B-D), or if you want a dominant chord for something like classical, calypso or blues, G7 (G-B-D-F).
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 6:55 am
by Dr. Dos
now weren't you supposed to make us a music tutorial madtom. You think you can hold out on us :(
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:43 pm
by 539
If you want to make good music for your game. Then play a game! You know play a FF game and copy the music that intrests you! (or any game)
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:51 pm
by Homz
No. Don't copy music. If you want to make a truly good game, be willing to set aside any release date hopes or speculations, sit down, and work hard on writing some good music. It pays off. Or, as an alternative, finish the game and show it off to some beta-testers. Then, maybe someone will think it's a good game and would be willing to write some excellent music for you.
And please, MadTom, a music tutorial would be _very_ helpful.
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:30 pm
by 539
Homz wrote:No. Don't copy music. If you want to make a truly good game, be willing to set aside any release date hopes or speculations, sit down, and work hard on writing some good music. It pays off. Or, as an alternative, finish the game and show it off to some beta-testers. Then, maybe someone will think it's a good game and would be willing to write some excellent music for you.
And please, MadTom, a music tutorial would be _very_ helpful.
woops! Sorry, what I meant to say is like get a beat from the game and change it to suit your needs. or....something like that......oh I'll just shut-up now.