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<Insidious> $400 is more than I've ever had in my bank account at one time
<Exophase> Wow Insidious ;P
<Insidious> this will be changed with my first socsec check
<Insidious> but still
<Exophase> What's socsec?
<Insidious> Social Security.
<Exophase> Why are you getting it?
<Insidious> Disability.
<Exophase> For what?
<Exophase> Your vision?
<Terryn> You got a hearing, then?
<Insidious> Anxiety, Depression, vision, and coordination.
<Terryn> Last I knew, you got rejected.
<Exophase> Oh geez.
<Insidious> Terryn: I appealed and they accepted me like
<Exophase> -_-
<Insidious> 6 months later
<Exophase> My mother is way more disabled than you are, but she can't even get a proper diagnosis.
<Terryn> That's what I thought would happen.
<Exophase> She might have MS
<Insidious> which is somewhat good because now I have a years worth of check coming to me
<Insidious> my first check is $2200 or so.
<Terryn> They only accept like 10% of people at first.
<Insidious> Exophase: Yeah, it all depends on the diagnosis...
<Exophase> No offense Insidious but that's not very fair.
<Insidious> I'm fairly easy to diagnose but not to treat.
<Insidious> Eh, I know.
<Insidious> But it means I get to live and work.
<Exophase> You can't live and work without it?
<Insidious> Exophase: You saw where I live.
<Exophase> I'm sure I had at least as much anxiety and depression as you do, if not still.
<Exophase> You're old enough to move >_>
<Insidious> I dont have the money to.
<Insidious> Not without socsec.
<hoorj> he is now that he's getting gubmint money
<Insidious> This is the point.
<Insidious> Socsec is my moving catalyst.
<hoorj> and gubmint cheese :(
<Terryn> I considered doing this, once, but realised I wouldn't stand a chance
<Terryn> you usually need to be seeing a doctor for a while
<Insidious> Exophase: You seem to take this very personal and I'd advise you not to.
<Terryn> Also, pff, unlucky isn't a disability
<hoorj> oh snap
<Insidious> Money is money, and you dont know my situation.
<zamros> Aww shit
<lolilover> Terryn's main problem is his location, and the fact that he can't get out of it.
<akai> insid quit wihning and go make a character
<Insidious> akai: I'm not whining.
<lolilover> Once he's able to move somewhere where he can get a damn job, he'll be able to finish grad school and start making truckloads of money.
<Insidious> I'm just saying, theres really no point to say the fact I'm getting government help is "unfair"
<Exophase> Terryn can get out of his location.
<Exophase> Insidious; Er, what? Money is money, advising me, don't know your situation, okay?
<hoorj> what would an exophase know about money lols
<Terryn> I can get out, but it's a Hail Mary pass on the back of someone else
<Insidious> Exophase: You don't.
<Insidious> Know my situation, that is.
<Insidious> I may be a whiny little fuck, but I dont go into that much detail.
<Exophase> Okay Insidious, tell me about your situation that makes you entitled to get money.
<Insidious> Alright, you want the sob story?
<Exophase> Because I think I know YOU well enough to believe you're as capable as anyone.
<Exophase> Bad shit happens, but that's not what disability is there for.
<Insidious> Ok, you tell me a 3 step instruction and I will forget all by the first step
<Exophase> That's strange, you seem to be able to learn how to program and what have you fine.
<Exophase> And I haven't had that problem in all the time I've talked to you.
<Insidious> exophase, I reference stuff
<Insidious> a lot.
<Exophase> Which has been like, several years..
<Insidious> again
<Insidious> written.
<Insidious> theres a difference.
<Exophase> Besides, you said you got disability for
<Insidious> I log everything so I can remember it.
<Exophase> Anxiety, depression, vision, and coordination.
<Insidious> yes.
<Exophase> Not mental disability.
<Insidious> ...
<Insidious> I just mentioned
<Insidious> 3 fucking mental disabilities
<Insidious> anxiety
<Insidious> depression
<Exophase> Those aren't mental disabilities!
<Insidious> and gross motor coordination
<Insidious> yes
<Insidious> they are.
<Exophase> I disagree.
<Insidious> Go read DSM.
<Exophase> And don't tell me I don't know.
<Insidious> they are.
<Exophase> Like I've never had anxiety or depression.
<Insidious> Exophase: So?
<Exophase> Clinical levels I mean.
<Insidious> That makes you an expert?
<zamros> those are mental disorders, not disabilities
<Exophase> So these things did not prevent me from being able to WORK
<Insidious> the DSM-IV lists depression and anxiety that is severe enough to impact ones daily life
<Insidious> as a disability.
<Exophase> Insidious wasn't the first thing you said
<Exophase> "I know it's unfair"
<Exophase> So why are you getting all offended now?
<Insidious> Because you're yelling at me
<Exophase> No I'm not.
<hoorj> exo's being pretty calm actually
<Insidious> Exophase: Can I just continue listing symptoms here?
<astral> Government disability is the new furry/gay/sexually confused for the MZX community.
<hoorj> astral haha yes
<Exophase> Insidious; I'd prefer you didn't?
<Insidious> Exophase: You asked me to!
<Insidious> If it makes you uncomfortable
<Insidious> dont ask.
<Insidious> Now
<Insidious> I can't write legibly
<Insidious> I can't get organized
<Exophase> Insidious; It doesn't make me uncomfortable, and I didn't ask. Also who cares about writing anymore?
<Insidious> I have trouble keeping my balance
<Exophase> I just think it's a waste of time.
<Insidious> 17:27 <Exophase> Okay Insidious, tell me about your situation that makes you entitled to get money.
<Insidious> you didnt ask alright.
<Insidious> you certainly didnt ask.
<Exophase> Insidious; Yes, emphasis on the last part ;P
<Insidious> i am.
<Exophase> Uh, well, sorry, I guess we disagree.
<Insidious> Lets continue.
<Paul> still, I'd like some money I earned. It just feels better, yknow?
* Exophase rolls his eyes
<Insidious> My visal angle is reduced by half
<Insidious> my depth perception is nonexistant
<Exophase> Paul-tan; Then use all your money to get a good education and get a job, geez
<hoorj> hahaha
<Insidious> my ability to look for objects in a room is diminished
<hoorj> he kind of stopped doing that...
<hoorj> whoops!
<Terryn> Yeah, geez. I want to earn money. Even if I won the damn lottery, I'd be working.
<Paul> yeah...
<Insidious> its SSI, I'm going to be working.
<Insidious> anyway
<Exophase> Insidious, you're a programmer - these things do not inhibit that, you should be getting a degree to be a programmer. But I suppose you want to tell me these things prevented you from doing that right?
<Paul> well, I was pretty much on the way to being kicked out if I hadn't done it myself...
<Insidious> Exophase: ...
<Insidious> Exophase: ...
<Insidious> Homework.
<Insidious> Papers.
<Insidious> Essays.
<Exophase> Yeah uh huh
<Insidious> Depression!
<Insidious> Exo, you're a fuck.
<Insidious> I'm sorry, but wtf.
<zamros> solution: Don't be a depres
<hoorj> yeah these are pretty minor problems/excuses
<Exophase> I was in a hospital that practically refused to let me leave without a prescription for depression meds.
<Exophase> (somehow they still let me)
<Exophase> Didn't prevent me from doing work.
<Insidious> Ha. Ha. Ha.
<Insidious> Yeah.
<Exophase> ha
<Exophase> ha
<Insidious> Havent you always told me
<Insidious> that you've never actually attempted suicide?
<Exophase> What are you getting at?
<Insidious> I have a fucking criminal record for it.
<Exophase> Who fucking cares?
<hoorj> uh oh, insidious' feelings are hurt :(
<Insidious> You do
<wildweasel> uh oh, i think i came in at a bad time
<Insidious> apparently.
<Exophase> As far as that hospital is concerned I attempted suicide.
<Exophase> Even though I didn't.
<zamros> i never attempted suicide, true story
<Insidious> wildweasel: Exophase is arguing that I dont deserve Social Security.
<Exophase> I still don't see why this has to prevent you from getting an education.
<Insidious> Exophase: I want you to live a year in my shoes
<Exophase> Oh come on.
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<Insidious> because you would not be so god damned arrogant
<Insidious> if you did.
<Exophase> I'm not arrogant.
<Insidious> you are.
<lolilover> i love wildweasel
<Exophase> I went through all kinds of crap too.
<Exophase> You have a lot more than I do in a lot of ways.
<Insidious> you are so arrogant that you dont even realize it.
<Exophase> Oh shut up.
<Exophase> You're the one..
<Exophase> Who thinks you're so much worse off than everyone.
<Insidious> I dont think I'm worse off than everyone.
<Insidious> That wasnt my point
<hoorj> yeah you do
<Exophase> You don't want to admit that your biggest personality flaw is your dependency on these things.
<lolilover> Insid's worse off than me
<Insidious> my point is that I deserve this.
<lolilover> Better off than Terryn
<Exophase> That you don't want to try to deal, you want to be accepted as incapable.
<Insidious> ...
<Insidious> Fuck off.
<Exophase> It's true though. It has been true as long as I've known you, although you've gotten better it's still true.
<Exophase> There's a constant rationalization for you and that's what you're doing. You can't accept that there are people that have all of your symptoms and much more who aren't gripping them like you are.
<Exophase> But that's just the truth.
<zamros> i lovve exophse
<Insidious> I'm not "gripping them", you idiot.
<Exophase> Yes you are.
<Insidious> I havent learned to accept that I need help until recently
<Terryn> Sometimes I try to do things but it just doesn't work out the way I want it to, and I get real frustrated and then like I try hard to do it, and I like, take my time but it just doesn't work out the way I want it to. Its like, I concentrate on it real hard, but it just doesn't work out. And everything I do and everything I try, it never turns out.
<Insidious> my therapist helped me with that
<Exophase> You haven't?
<Insidious> my parents helped me with that
<Exophase> You've been parading these things for years.
<Insidious> No, I havent.
<Exophase> Sure you have.
<Insidious> No, I havent.
<hoorj> you have
<zamros> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<Insidious> I've been parading that I have PROBLEMS
<Terryn> It's like, I need time to figure these things out, but there's always someone there going "hey Mike, you know we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately, you know? You need to maybe get away. And like, maybe you should talk about it, you'll feel a lot better." And I'm all like "oh, nah, its ok, you know. I'll figure it out. Just leave me alone, I'll figure it out, you know?
<Insidious> I havent been parading that I need help.
<hoorj> a_nerd.rtf
<Exophase> You have been constantly doing this, saying "I have it really badly, give me special treatment" online.
<hoorj> a_nerd.rtf
<lolilover> I'm going to need to move this channel into a bigger window..
<zamros> i have it really badly
<astral> Guys hold on
<astral> Listen to me
<Exophase> You can USE help, what does it mean to need it?
<astral> I have a story about how my life got turned upside down
<Exophase> Can you really prove that you can't live without what you're getting?
<zamros> oh good, ashol is going to say something
<astral> It'll take a minute
<astral> Just sit right there
<Insidious> Exophase: Certainly.
<astral> And I'll tell you about how I became the PRINCE
<Insidious> Exophase: I'm here.
<Exophase> How much help do you think there is to go around, for everyone?
<Insidious> I have no job.
<astral> of a town called...
<astral> Bel Air.
<Insidious> I apply for jobs every day
<Insidious> and I cant get one
<Insidious> nobody wants me
<zamros> get a Call Center Job
<zamros> they'll hire anyone
<Exophase> Same with Terryn, you think he deserves disability too?
<Insidious> Yes!
<Insidious> I do!
<hoorj> yeah they really will hire anyone
<Exophase> That's bullshit!
<Insidious> No, its not.
<Exophase> That's not what disability is for.
<Exophase> Terryn, do you think you deserve disability?
<Terryn> Probably not, no.
<hoorj> heroin addicts work at call centers
<Exophase> Bearing in mind that there's a very limited amount of it to go around.
<lolilover> I don't think Terryn deserves disability. Terryn deserves money.
<Exophase> No one deserves anything.
<Paul> I wonder if insidious could get a smallish loan to move out and use until he gets a job
<lolilover> Exo: Terryn does.
<Insidious> Paul-tan: No.
<Exophase> Paul-tan; He doesn't have to.
<Exophase> He has a disability check.
<Exophase> While his parents are otherwise taking care of him.
<Paul> I mean if he didn't have disability...
<Insidious> Exophase: I pay my parents
<Insidious> to take care of me
<Exophase> You do? How much?
<zamros> $20 a week
<Exophase> While you had no job all this time you paid them?
<Insidious> You ever wonder why I have $800 in credit card debt? I mean shit man.
<Exophase> Because you keep buying computers? >_>
<Insidious> $200 a month.
<lolilover> You pay your parents with your credit card?
<Insidious> I dont buy computers, I get them for free.
<hoorj> 800 in credit card debt? you pussy
<lolilover> That's just trading one loan for another -_-
<hoorj> I have 1500 in credit card debt, and that's nothing
<zamros> i have no credit card debt
<Exophase> You get computers for free?
<Exophase> You keep getting new stuff.
<Insidious> Exophase: Craigslist.
<Terryn> I thankfully have no credit card.
<zamros> because i never got any credit cards
<Paul> I'm in the black.
<lolilover> I have a debit card.
<Exophase> People on craigslist give away new computers for free?!
<hoorj> yeah no credit cards is a not retarded choice
<Insidious> New computers?
<Exophase> Why have I not heard about this.
<lolilover> I can't trust myself with a credit card.
<hoorj> I really should never have gotten one
<Insidious> I dont own any new computers.
<Insidious> My tower is not even new.
<Exophase> Insidious, you keep talking about how you're buying new stuff.
<hoorj> but I haven't used it in years, so :)
<Insidious> I keep talking about how I wish
<lolilover> Well, actually I can, but a debit card was easy enough to apply for
<Insidious> I had the money
<Insidious> to buy new stuff
<Insidious> theres a difference.
<hoorj> or, :( :( :( still got to pay damnit
<Insidious> I never actually buy it.
<lolilover> How did you get an $800 credit card debt?
<lolilover> How long have you had it?
<Insidious> lolilover: Paying my parents.
<zamros> spending $800
<Insidious> I've had it pretty much since I got fired
<Exophase> Do your parents seriously swipe your credit card?
<Insidious> before then I was paying them with my own money
<Insidious> Exophase: Yes.
<astral> Lol I owe $120,000 to the bank for the house I just bought. Hooray debt :D
<lolilover> Exo: You can use them at ATMs...
<hoorj> jesus christ you are using cash advance on your credit cards
<Exophase> Crap yes but that's INSANE
<lolilover> astral: That's pretty cheap
<Terryn> astral: negative net worth party!!!
<hoorj> that's like straight up 25% interest
<Insidious> Exophase: Welcome to life.
<Paul> my sister owes money for her house but it's cheaper that she got a mortgage since she gets more in returns.
<Exophase> Cash advance interest is HUGE
<Insidious> Yes, it is.
<lolilover> did your parents seriously need the money that badly, to make you rack up a credit card debt?
<lolilover> holy fucking f
<Insidious> Yes.
<lolilover> credit card debt is the worst debt imaginable
<Insidious> My dad got a knee replacement
<Exophase> Anyway, I sympathize with your $200 a month obligation but that's really not what you'd have to pay anywhere in the real world.
<Insidious> we dont have insurance
<Exophase> You should get insurance now >_>
<Insidious> Exophase: I know
<Insidious> And I have insurance now
<Insidious> because I have social security
<Exophase> Medicare?
<Insidious> so I have medicaid.
<Exophase> Your PARENTS should get insurance.
<lolilover> i've got medicare!
<Insidious> My parents cant afford it.
<Exophase> I mean the kind you pay for monthly..
<Terryn> medicaid. so you actually have insurance worth something.
<zamros> i have 2 different forms of insurance
<Exophase> You can get it for under $100 a month.
<Terryn> congrats. private insurance is infuriating
<Insidious> I know that obligation is lower than what I'd need in real life
<Exophase> Geez why am I even talking about Insidious getting unfair money.
<Insidious> which is why I'm getting disability so I can move out
<Exophase> I should be talking about Paul.
<Insidious> and get a job
<Insidious> and earn money
<Paul> exophase, it wasn't my choice. :p
<Insidious> and be self sufficient
<Exophase> Then stop being on disability?
<Insidious> instead of accruing debt
<Exophase> Paul-tan; That's a fair defense ;P
<Insidious> Exophase: ...
<Exophase> Why are you dotting at me!
<Insidious> Exophase: I CANT MOVE OUT WITHOUT DISABILITY
<Insidious> I DONT HAVE THE MONEY
<Exophase> ....
<Insidious> for fucks sake
<lolilover> Yeah, I support paul on that.
<Insidious> A->B
<Exophase> Don't yell at me stupid, listen to what I'm saying.
<Insidious> A-fucking>B
<Paul> it was like, hey here's 4 million dollars, invested.
<Exophase> I said stop being on disability AFTER you do all that stuff you said.
<Exophase> Calm down.
<lolilover> If the government offers you hundreds of thousands of dollars, you take it motherfucker
<zamros> work at mcdonalds
<zamros> or The Goodwill
<Insidious> Exophase: I plan on it eventually.
<Insidious> this is temporary.
<Insidious> I've always said that
<Insidious> and I mean it
<Exophase> You do? You're going to tell the government "turns out I wasn't disabled afterall"?
<Insidious> No, I'm going to take a fulltime job.
<Insidious> If I get a fulltime job
<Insidious> disability goes away
<Insidious> automatically.
<lemre> i should tell the government i'm disabled
<Insidious> thats how it works.
<lemre> i want free money
<Exophase> Man you should be penalized for that.
<zamros> yeah, me too
<Terryn> I think Insid will get a job paying enough to obselete it.
<Insidious> Exactly.
<Exophase> Because disability is not SUPPOSED to be temporary, that's not the point.
<Terryn> He can have a job and SSI concurrently, if the job's horrible
<Insidious> SSI is supposed to be temporary.
<Exophase> Since when?
<Insidious> its supplemental
<Insidious> thats the idea.
<Insidious> Social Security Supplemental Insurance.
<Terryn> SSI is unemployment for the disabled.
<Exophase> Guh that does not mean "temporary"
<Insidious> yes it does.
<Insidious> listen to terryn.
<Insidious> he's right.
<Terryn> It's not exactly disability.
<Exophase> Supplemental means temporary? My brother is on that and he always be.
<Insidious> your brother is abusing the system I would argue.
<Exophase> Oh right he is ;P
<astral> ...
<astral> GIGGLE
<Exophase> He's mentally disabled.
<Exophase> I mean, for real
<Insidious> Then he should be getting full disability.
<Insidious> not SSI.
<Exophase> They only want to give so much!
<Exophase> He can still work minimum wage jobs a few hours of week through special programs.
<Insidious> Well, I'd argue for full disability in that case, all the same.
<Exophase> Wow Insidious ;P
<Insidious> this will be changed with my first socsec check
<Insidious> but still
<Exophase> What's socsec?
<Insidious> Social Security.
<Exophase> Why are you getting it?
<Insidious> Disability.
<Exophase> For what?
<Exophase> Your vision?
<Terryn> You got a hearing, then?
<Insidious> Anxiety, Depression, vision, and coordination.
<Terryn> Last I knew, you got rejected.
<Exophase> Oh geez.
<Insidious> Terryn: I appealed and they accepted me like
<Exophase> -_-
<Insidious> 6 months later
<Exophase> My mother is way more disabled than you are, but she can't even get a proper diagnosis.
<Terryn> That's what I thought would happen.
<Exophase> She might have MS
<Insidious> which is somewhat good because now I have a years worth of check coming to me
<Insidious> my first check is $2200 or so.
<Terryn> They only accept like 10% of people at first.
<Insidious> Exophase: Yeah, it all depends on the diagnosis...
<Exophase> No offense Insidious but that's not very fair.
<Insidious> I'm fairly easy to diagnose but not to treat.
<Insidious> Eh, I know.
<Insidious> But it means I get to live and work.
<Exophase> You can't live and work without it?
<Insidious> Exophase: You saw where I live.
<Exophase> I'm sure I had at least as much anxiety and depression as you do, if not still.
<Exophase> You're old enough to move >_>
<Insidious> I dont have the money to.
<Insidious> Not without socsec.
<hoorj> he is now that he's getting gubmint money
<Insidious> This is the point.
<Insidious> Socsec is my moving catalyst.
<hoorj> and gubmint cheese :(
<Terryn> I considered doing this, once, but realised I wouldn't stand a chance
<Terryn> you usually need to be seeing a doctor for a while
<Insidious> Exophase: You seem to take this very personal and I'd advise you not to.
<Terryn> Also, pff, unlucky isn't a disability
<hoorj> oh snap
<Insidious> Money is money, and you dont know my situation.
<zamros> Aww shit
<lolilover> Terryn's main problem is his location, and the fact that he can't get out of it.
<akai> insid quit wihning and go make a character
<Insidious> akai: I'm not whining.
<lolilover> Once he's able to move somewhere where he can get a damn job, he'll be able to finish grad school and start making truckloads of money.
<Insidious> I'm just saying, theres really no point to say the fact I'm getting government help is "unfair"
<Exophase> Terryn can get out of his location.
<Exophase> Insidious; Er, what? Money is money, advising me, don't know your situation, okay?
<hoorj> what would an exophase know about money lols
<Terryn> I can get out, but it's a Hail Mary pass on the back of someone else
<Insidious> Exophase: You don't.
<Insidious> Know my situation, that is.
<Insidious> I may be a whiny little fuck, but I dont go into that much detail.
<Exophase> Okay Insidious, tell me about your situation that makes you entitled to get money.
<Insidious> Alright, you want the sob story?
<Exophase> Because I think I know YOU well enough to believe you're as capable as anyone.
<Exophase> Bad shit happens, but that's not what disability is there for.
<Insidious> Ok, you tell me a 3 step instruction and I will forget all by the first step
<Exophase> That's strange, you seem to be able to learn how to program and what have you fine.
<Exophase> And I haven't had that problem in all the time I've talked to you.
<Insidious> exophase, I reference stuff
<Insidious> a lot.
<Exophase> Which has been like, several years..
<Insidious> again
<Insidious> written.
<Insidious> theres a difference.
<Exophase> Besides, you said you got disability for
<Insidious> I log everything so I can remember it.
<Exophase> Anxiety, depression, vision, and coordination.
<Insidious> yes.
<Exophase> Not mental disability.
<Insidious> ...
<Insidious> I just mentioned
<Insidious> 3 fucking mental disabilities
<Insidious> anxiety
<Insidious> depression
<Exophase> Those aren't mental disabilities!
<Insidious> and gross motor coordination
<Insidious> yes
<Insidious> they are.
<Exophase> I disagree.
<Insidious> Go read DSM.
<Exophase> And don't tell me I don't know.
<Insidious> they are.
<Exophase> Like I've never had anxiety or depression.
<Insidious> Exophase: So?
<Exophase> Clinical levels I mean.
<Insidious> That makes you an expert?
<zamros> those are mental disorders, not disabilities
<Exophase> So these things did not prevent me from being able to WORK
<Insidious> the DSM-IV lists depression and anxiety that is severe enough to impact ones daily life
<Insidious> as a disability.
<Exophase> Insidious wasn't the first thing you said
<Exophase> "I know it's unfair"
<Exophase> So why are you getting all offended now?
<Insidious> Because you're yelling at me
<Exophase> No I'm not.
<hoorj> exo's being pretty calm actually
<Insidious> Exophase: Can I just continue listing symptoms here?
<astral> Government disability is the new furry/gay/sexually confused for the MZX community.
<hoorj> astral haha yes
<Exophase> Insidious; I'd prefer you didn't?
<Insidious> Exophase: You asked me to!
<Insidious> If it makes you uncomfortable
<Insidious> dont ask.
<Insidious> Now
<Insidious> I can't write legibly
<Insidious> I can't get organized
<Exophase> Insidious; It doesn't make me uncomfortable, and I didn't ask. Also who cares about writing anymore?
<Insidious> I have trouble keeping my balance
<Exophase> I just think it's a waste of time.
<Insidious> 17:27 <Exophase> Okay Insidious, tell me about your situation that makes you entitled to get money.
<Insidious> you didnt ask alright.
<Insidious> you certainly didnt ask.
<Exophase> Insidious; Yes, emphasis on the last part ;P
<Insidious> i am.
<Exophase> Uh, well, sorry, I guess we disagree.
<Insidious> Lets continue.
<Paul> still, I'd like some money I earned. It just feels better, yknow?
* Exophase rolls his eyes
<Insidious> My visal angle is reduced by half
<Insidious> my depth perception is nonexistant
<Exophase> Paul-tan; Then use all your money to get a good education and get a job, geez
<hoorj> hahaha
<Insidious> my ability to look for objects in a room is diminished
<hoorj> he kind of stopped doing that...
<hoorj> whoops!
<Terryn> Yeah, geez. I want to earn money. Even if I won the damn lottery, I'd be working.
<Paul> yeah...
<Insidious> its SSI, I'm going to be working.
<Insidious> anyway
<Exophase> Insidious, you're a programmer - these things do not inhibit that, you should be getting a degree to be a programmer. But I suppose you want to tell me these things prevented you from doing that right?
<Paul> well, I was pretty much on the way to being kicked out if I hadn't done it myself...
<Insidious> Exophase: ...
<Insidious> Exophase: ...
<Insidious> Homework.
<Insidious> Papers.
<Insidious> Essays.
<Exophase> Yeah uh huh
<Insidious> Depression!
<Insidious> Exo, you're a fuck.
<Insidious> I'm sorry, but wtf.
<zamros> solution: Don't be a depres
<hoorj> yeah these are pretty minor problems/excuses
<Exophase> I was in a hospital that practically refused to let me leave without a prescription for depression meds.
<Exophase> (somehow they still let me)
<Exophase> Didn't prevent me from doing work.
<Insidious> Ha. Ha. Ha.
<Insidious> Yeah.
<Exophase> ha
<Exophase> ha
<Insidious> Havent you always told me
<Insidious> that you've never actually attempted suicide?
<Exophase> What are you getting at?
<Insidious> I have a fucking criminal record for it.
<Exophase> Who fucking cares?
<hoorj> uh oh, insidious' feelings are hurt :(
<Insidious> You do
<wildweasel> uh oh, i think i came in at a bad time
<Insidious> apparently.
<Exophase> As far as that hospital is concerned I attempted suicide.
<Exophase> Even though I didn't.
<zamros> i never attempted suicide, true story
<Insidious> wildweasel: Exophase is arguing that I dont deserve Social Security.
<Exophase> I still don't see why this has to prevent you from getting an education.
<Insidious> Exophase: I want you to live a year in my shoes
<Exophase> Oh come on.
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<Insidious> because you would not be so god damned arrogant
<Insidious> if you did.
<Exophase> I'm not arrogant.
<Insidious> you are.
<lolilover> i love wildweasel
<Exophase> I went through all kinds of crap too.
<Exophase> You have a lot more than I do in a lot of ways.
<Insidious> you are so arrogant that you dont even realize it.
<Exophase> Oh shut up.
<Exophase> You're the one..
<Exophase> Who thinks you're so much worse off than everyone.
<Insidious> I dont think I'm worse off than everyone.
<Insidious> That wasnt my point
<hoorj> yeah you do
<Exophase> You don't want to admit that your biggest personality flaw is your dependency on these things.
<lolilover> Insid's worse off than me
<Insidious> my point is that I deserve this.
<lolilover> Better off than Terryn
<Exophase> That you don't want to try to deal, you want to be accepted as incapable.
<Insidious> ...
<Insidious> Fuck off.
<Exophase> It's true though. It has been true as long as I've known you, although you've gotten better it's still true.
<Exophase> There's a constant rationalization for you and that's what you're doing. You can't accept that there are people that have all of your symptoms and much more who aren't gripping them like you are.
<Exophase> But that's just the truth.
<zamros> i lovve exophse
<Insidious> I'm not "gripping them", you idiot.
<Exophase> Yes you are.
<Insidious> I havent learned to accept that I need help until recently
<Terryn> Sometimes I try to do things but it just doesn't work out the way I want it to, and I get real frustrated and then like I try hard to do it, and I like, take my time but it just doesn't work out the way I want it to. Its like, I concentrate on it real hard, but it just doesn't work out. And everything I do and everything I try, it never turns out.
<Insidious> my therapist helped me with that
<Exophase> You haven't?
<Insidious> my parents helped me with that
<Exophase> You've been parading these things for years.
<Insidious> No, I havent.
<Exophase> Sure you have.
<Insidious> No, I havent.
<hoorj> you have
<zamros> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<Insidious> I've been parading that I have PROBLEMS
<Terryn> It's like, I need time to figure these things out, but there's always someone there going "hey Mike, you know we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately, you know? You need to maybe get away. And like, maybe you should talk about it, you'll feel a lot better." And I'm all like "oh, nah, its ok, you know. I'll figure it out. Just leave me alone, I'll figure it out, you know?
<Insidious> I havent been parading that I need help.
<hoorj> a_nerd.rtf
<Exophase> You have been constantly doing this, saying "I have it really badly, give me special treatment" online.
<hoorj> a_nerd.rtf
<lolilover> I'm going to need to move this channel into a bigger window..
<zamros> i have it really badly
<astral> Guys hold on
<astral> Listen to me
<Exophase> You can USE help, what does it mean to need it?
<astral> I have a story about how my life got turned upside down
<Exophase> Can you really prove that you can't live without what you're getting?
<zamros> oh good, ashol is going to say something
<astral> It'll take a minute
<astral> Just sit right there
<Insidious> Exophase: Certainly.
<astral> And I'll tell you about how I became the PRINCE
<Insidious> Exophase: I'm here.
<Exophase> How much help do you think there is to go around, for everyone?
<Insidious> I have no job.
<astral> of a town called...
<astral> Bel Air.
<Insidious> I apply for jobs every day
<Insidious> and I cant get one
<Insidious> nobody wants me
<zamros> get a Call Center Job
<zamros> they'll hire anyone
<Exophase> Same with Terryn, you think he deserves disability too?
<Insidious> Yes!
<Insidious> I do!
<hoorj> yeah they really will hire anyone
<Exophase> That's bullshit!
<Insidious> No, its not.
<Exophase> That's not what disability is for.
<Exophase> Terryn, do you think you deserve disability?
<Terryn> Probably not, no.
<hoorj> heroin addicts work at call centers
<Exophase> Bearing in mind that there's a very limited amount of it to go around.
<lolilover> I don't think Terryn deserves disability. Terryn deserves money.
<Exophase> No one deserves anything.
<Paul> I wonder if insidious could get a smallish loan to move out and use until he gets a job
<lolilover> Exo: Terryn does.
<Insidious> Paul-tan: No.
<Exophase> Paul-tan; He doesn't have to.
<Exophase> He has a disability check.
<Exophase> While his parents are otherwise taking care of him.
<Paul> I mean if he didn't have disability...
<Insidious> Exophase: I pay my parents
<Insidious> to take care of me
<Exophase> You do? How much?
<zamros> $20 a week
<Exophase> While you had no job all this time you paid them?
<Insidious> You ever wonder why I have $800 in credit card debt? I mean shit man.
<Exophase> Because you keep buying computers? >_>
<Insidious> $200 a month.
<lolilover> You pay your parents with your credit card?
<Insidious> I dont buy computers, I get them for free.
<hoorj> 800 in credit card debt? you pussy
<lolilover> That's just trading one loan for another -_-
<hoorj> I have 1500 in credit card debt, and that's nothing
<zamros> i have no credit card debt
<Exophase> You get computers for free?
<Exophase> You keep getting new stuff.
<Insidious> Exophase: Craigslist.
<Terryn> I thankfully have no credit card.
<zamros> because i never got any credit cards
<Paul> I'm in the black.
<lolilover> I have a debit card.
<Exophase> People on craigslist give away new computers for free?!
<hoorj> yeah no credit cards is a not retarded choice
<Insidious> New computers?
<Exophase> Why have I not heard about this.
<lolilover> I can't trust myself with a credit card.
<hoorj> I really should never have gotten one
<Insidious> I dont own any new computers.
<Insidious> My tower is not even new.
<Exophase> Insidious, you keep talking about how you're buying new stuff.
<hoorj> but I haven't used it in years, so :)
<Insidious> I keep talking about how I wish
<lolilover> Well, actually I can, but a debit card was easy enough to apply for
<Insidious> I had the money
<Insidious> to buy new stuff
<Insidious> theres a difference.
<hoorj> or, :( :( :( still got to pay damnit
<Insidious> I never actually buy it.
<lolilover> How did you get an $800 credit card debt?
<lolilover> How long have you had it?
<Insidious> lolilover: Paying my parents.
<zamros> spending $800
<Insidious> I've had it pretty much since I got fired
<Exophase> Do your parents seriously swipe your credit card?
<Insidious> before then I was paying them with my own money
<Insidious> Exophase: Yes.
<astral> Lol I owe $120,000 to the bank for the house I just bought. Hooray debt :D
<lolilover> Exo: You can use them at ATMs...
<hoorj> jesus christ you are using cash advance on your credit cards
<Exophase> Crap yes but that's INSANE
<lolilover> astral: That's pretty cheap
<Terryn> astral: negative net worth party!!!
<hoorj> that's like straight up 25% interest
<Insidious> Exophase: Welcome to life.
<Paul> my sister owes money for her house but it's cheaper that she got a mortgage since she gets more in returns.
<Exophase> Cash advance interest is HUGE
<Insidious> Yes, it is.
<lolilover> did your parents seriously need the money that badly, to make you rack up a credit card debt?
<lolilover> holy fucking f
<Insidious> Yes.
<lolilover> credit card debt is the worst debt imaginable
<Insidious> My dad got a knee replacement
<Exophase> Anyway, I sympathize with your $200 a month obligation but that's really not what you'd have to pay anywhere in the real world.
<Insidious> we dont have insurance
<Exophase> You should get insurance now >_>
<Insidious> Exophase: I know
<Insidious> And I have insurance now
<Insidious> because I have social security
<Exophase> Medicare?
<Insidious> so I have medicaid.
<Exophase> Your PARENTS should get insurance.
<lolilover> i've got medicare!
<Insidious> My parents cant afford it.
<Exophase> I mean the kind you pay for monthly..
<Terryn> medicaid. so you actually have insurance worth something.
<zamros> i have 2 different forms of insurance
<Exophase> You can get it for under $100 a month.
<Terryn> congrats. private insurance is infuriating
<Insidious> I know that obligation is lower than what I'd need in real life
<Exophase> Geez why am I even talking about Insidious getting unfair money.
<Insidious> which is why I'm getting disability so I can move out
<Exophase> I should be talking about Paul.
<Insidious> and get a job
<Insidious> and earn money
<Paul> exophase, it wasn't my choice. :p
<Insidious> and be self sufficient
<Exophase> Then stop being on disability?
<Insidious> instead of accruing debt
<Exophase> Paul-tan; That's a fair defense ;P
<Insidious> Exophase: ...
<Exophase> Why are you dotting at me!
<Insidious> Exophase: I CANT MOVE OUT WITHOUT DISABILITY
<Insidious> I DONT HAVE THE MONEY
<Exophase> ....
<Insidious> for fucks sake
<lolilover> Yeah, I support paul on that.
<Insidious> A->B
<Exophase> Don't yell at me stupid, listen to what I'm saying.
<Insidious> A-fucking>B
<Paul> it was like, hey here's 4 million dollars, invested.
<Exophase> I said stop being on disability AFTER you do all that stuff you said.
<Exophase> Calm down.
<lolilover> If the government offers you hundreds of thousands of dollars, you take it motherfucker
<zamros> work at mcdonalds
<zamros> or The Goodwill
<Insidious> Exophase: I plan on it eventually.
<Insidious> this is temporary.
<Insidious> I've always said that
<Insidious> and I mean it
<Exophase> You do? You're going to tell the government "turns out I wasn't disabled afterall"?
<Insidious> No, I'm going to take a fulltime job.
<Insidious> If I get a fulltime job
<Insidious> disability goes away
<Insidious> automatically.
<lemre> i should tell the government i'm disabled
<Insidious> thats how it works.
<lemre> i want free money
<Exophase> Man you should be penalized for that.
<zamros> yeah, me too
<Terryn> I think Insid will get a job paying enough to obselete it.
<Insidious> Exactly.
<Exophase> Because disability is not SUPPOSED to be temporary, that's not the point.
<Terryn> He can have a job and SSI concurrently, if the job's horrible
<Insidious> SSI is supposed to be temporary.
<Exophase> Since when?
<Insidious> its supplemental
<Insidious> thats the idea.
<Insidious> Social Security Supplemental Insurance.
<Terryn> SSI is unemployment for the disabled.
<Exophase> Guh that does not mean "temporary"
<Insidious> yes it does.
<Insidious> listen to terryn.
<Insidious> he's right.
<Terryn> It's not exactly disability.
<Exophase> Supplemental means temporary? My brother is on that and he always be.
<Insidious> your brother is abusing the system I would argue.
<Exophase> Oh right he is ;P
<astral> ...
<astral> GIGGLE
<Exophase> He's mentally disabled.
<Exophase> I mean, for real
<Insidious> Then he should be getting full disability.
<Insidious> not SSI.
<Exophase> They only want to give so much!
<Exophase> He can still work minimum wage jobs a few hours of week through special programs.
<Insidious> Well, I'd argue for full disability in that case, all the same.
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i was wondering why t-bone was here yesterday and sending me pm's about how i want him to die or some shit, now i know: http://www.digitalmzx.net/forums/index. ... opic=14025
guy sucks
guy sucks
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your picture doesn't work, and i only read the first one asking why i thought he sucked (replied: "if you have to ask, you'll never know") and i guessed the others were similar so i just deleted them straight up without reading because who gives a fuck, i'm confident they weren't even lame in an entertaining way
i'm sorry
of course, he's welcome to post here to cry about how i said he sucked, but i do not think it will establish any changes of opinion
i'm sorry
of course, he's welcome to post here to cry about how i said he sucked, but i do not think it will establish any changes of opinion
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It's not his image, its mine. Schrödinger's Cat i don't appropriate you linking images from my host and stealing my bandwidth. And Peter what is your issue with slandering me? Take it you didn't read the emails after all.
I don't think this is what a wiki article is for, that's opinion not information:
http://zzt.org/zu/wiki/T-Bone6
Also i do work at a community radio station and have been since March 1st of 2004, when i first started volunteering straight out of highschool.
http://www.catchdaflava.com/content/radio.php
I don't know why your taking it this far. This is slander since my full name is used. I can't believe your older than me and your doing this. I can move on, but I don't think you can. You already went back on the wiki to slander me. You guys can just delete the wiki about me, then I'll be fine. I came back to see how the ZZT community was doing and all i saw was all the stuff written about me. Understand it was years ago but why was it on a wiki? That not a place for opinion unless its in a talk or discussion page. You can insult me there its fine but why on a wiki article using my full name, it's all all search bots lists now. Why am I instantly your worst enemy?
I don't expect you to think differently of me i just want the insults to stop. I'm an understandable person, i just need it talked through that's all, or resolution not more insults. What do you want me to do? And please be real about the situation no more posting images or saying more insults just talk to me.
I don't think this is what a wiki article is for, that's opinion not information:
http://zzt.org/zu/wiki/T-Bone6
Also i do work at a community radio station and have been since March 1st of 2004, when i first started volunteering straight out of highschool.
http://www.catchdaflava.com/content/radio.php
I don't know why your taking it this far. This is slander since my full name is used. I can't believe your older than me and your doing this. I can move on, but I don't think you can. You already went back on the wiki to slander me. You guys can just delete the wiki about me, then I'll be fine. I came back to see how the ZZT community was doing and all i saw was all the stuff written about me. Understand it was years ago but why was it on a wiki? That not a place for opinion unless its in a talk or discussion page. You can insult me there its fine but why on a wiki article using my full name, it's all all search bots lists now. Why am I instantly your worst enemy?
I don't expect you to think differently of me i just want the insults to stop. I'm an understandable person, i just need it talked through that's all, or resolution not more insults. What do you want me to do? And please be real about the situation no more posting images or saying more insults just talk to me.
Sorry to hear that, t-bone. It took me a while to figure it out, but this community really is a joke so the wiki is full of personal insults. That being said, if you don't mind heavy sarcasm and don't try to spill your personal life out on the forums, it's a little less daunting.
I STILL can't tell when nadir's joking!
I STILL can't tell when nadir's joking!
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cool, he posted
1. i might take this more seriously if you weren't complaining and crying about a lame comment about how you suck that i made on an obscure website two years ago like i ran over your girlfriend yesterday. probably not though.
2. this is not "slander". it is a matter of opinion. a true matter of opinion, as it is mine, but a matter of opinion nonetheless. i hold the opinion that t-bone is an idiot. this is 1000000% serious. if this was "slander" then political cartoonists the world over would be in big trouble for saying bush sucked and was a dumby. besides, it's slander when it's spoken and LIBEL when it's written down, if you want to get into law terms. note the difference.
to wit, this would be libel:
"t-bone has a massive dick, and has an iq of 350. t-bone can fly and can see into the future. this is indisputible fact."
this is not, because it is a matter of opinion and not intended to be taken as unwritten truth:
"t-bone is a fucking idiot."
are we clear on this? i hope so. next time make sure you know what a word means before you use it, retard.
3. thanks for calling me by my real, actual real world name instead of my wacky internet handle, it really made me realise how real and serious you really were.
1. i might take this more seriously if you weren't complaining and crying about a lame comment about how you suck that i made on an obscure website two years ago like i ran over your girlfriend yesterday. probably not though.
2. this is not "slander". it is a matter of opinion. a true matter of opinion, as it is mine, but a matter of opinion nonetheless. i hold the opinion that t-bone is an idiot. this is 1000000% serious. if this was "slander" then political cartoonists the world over would be in big trouble for saying bush sucked and was a dumby. besides, it's slander when it's spoken and LIBEL when it's written down, if you want to get into law terms. note the difference.
to wit, this would be libel:
"t-bone has a massive dick, and has an iq of 350. t-bone can fly and can see into the future. this is indisputible fact."
this is not, because it is a matter of opinion and not intended to be taken as unwritten truth:
"t-bone is a fucking idiot."
are we clear on this? i hope so. next time make sure you know what a word means before you use it, retard.
3. thanks for calling me by my real, actual real world name instead of my wacky internet handle, it really made me realise how real and serious you really were.
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This is no time for jokes. The time for joking is over because T-Bone (henceforth referred to as REDACTED) called me REDACTED. He also sent me a message on Facebook saying "hello". He knows who I am and I should not mess with him. I cannot hide behind internet anonymity any longer like a coward. Could things get any more serious than this????????zamros wrote:Nadir isn't joking. He really thinks T-Bone is an idiot.
I think not.
"If you send REDACTED a message, you will give him permission to view your list of friends, as well as your Basic, Work and Education info for one month."
haha fuck that
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