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How were you introduced to zzt/z2?
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:02 pm
by 464
I remember when I first found zzt. I was 12 and I had gotten my first computer. I kept getting on the internet when I could and getting old freeware and shareware games. Eventually I came across dosgames.org and found zzt and a link to the old zzt.org site there. I've been complete ever since. It's also nice to know that site is still active.
So how did you find zzt?
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:08 pm
by Dr. Dos
Every year our block has a yardsale and it's some big community event and I used to make some good money getting rid of junk <s>and foolishly going along with my brother's idea to sell the NES</s>. So I had some cash and I see a table somebody has with some computer games. I see "GAME MASTER 3rd EDITION" one of those 20948120938102 games on 1 cd things. $2 later I was playing WINWHEEL and JEWEL THIEF. As time went on I found other awesome games like SUPERFLY, CONSTRUCTION BOB, SUPER ZZT, ZZT, TANK WARS, and CASTLE OF THE WINDS. Plus some shit that wasn't as good oh also STAR TURKEY which was neat.
So yeah I fucked around with monster zoo and town and was about to find out where to buy this game when i find out it's now free and i found surfsolutions.org/~zarchive or whatever the old url was which was ancient.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:25 pm
by Zenith Nadir
found zzt on a shareware disk christmas '96
spent much of '97 learning the ropes and quietly downloading seminal zzt games to copy
released the kave to the zzt community (then on aol) early '98
first posted on zzt.archive message boards mid '98- would have participated more earlier if not for the shift from aol to the wasteland that is the internet
went to #darkdigital for the first time early '99 (tseng made me do it)
yeah, i didn't exactly hurry
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:04 pm
by Furry Jesus Freak
Well, first I heard of it on TMK in 1999, but didn't bother with it. Come 2004, I was bored and went to TMK thinking "why not try that ZZT thingy?" Well, the games were taken down for copyright reasons. However, seeing that <strike>made me want to illegally download it</strike> made me curious to learn more. So, I went to Yahoo and searched and found The Land of ZZT. I got ZZT, liked it, found the IF page, liked it, and from IF found a link to Z2 in June. I downloaded crap to my hearts content, then made myself known on the fora. I then proceeded to make myself simontaniously <sp??> loved and hated. So now you know. BTW, I haven't seen you around much? Where've you been?
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:20 pm
by Ando
In early 2000 I befriended a guy named Andrew Peet, who is Graham Peet's (Amnesia for MZX) little brother. He introduced me to MZX, but about half a year later I discovered ZZT and I decided to go into that because ZZT is just so much simpler, despite the limited graphics. When I escaped my overbearing parents last month in order to go to college I finally introduced myself into the community (they had this thing against message boards). And so far most people aren't that fond of me. It's getting better, though. I estimate that in six months or a year I'll be accepted by most.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:15 pm
by My Liver Hurtz
eRN56 is responsible for showing me ZZT, when he gave it to me on a disk with the incomplete set of ZZT files which caused DOS errors whenever I loaded it up.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:37 pm
by 642
I found it when "Stag" showed it to me back in late 2000. I'd been fiddling with it for a few years, and then one day said, "Hey, why not see what other people think about my games?" After a quick google search, I found Z2 and uploaded a few of my old games. Thus began my <s>REIGN OF TERROR</s> struggle to stay un-banned.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:39 pm
by 235
i downloaded it off the aol downloads thingy along with some games when it was still around. sometime in '99 i found zzt.org and joined #darkdigital and shit.
a very detailed description of how i got into zzt.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:51 am
by MadTom
In early 2000, having moved to my father's house and acquired internet access on what was effectively my own computer, I began looking on the internet for cheats and walkthroughs and such for a few DOS games that I had.
I can't remember from where I got it, but I found one particular program called Cheat by Mike Zeier, which listed in simple text-based format cheats and reviews for a whole heap of these old games. When bored at a later stage, at one point I cycled through them and came across ZZT, the file for which included a simple review saying that it was an addictive spin-off of the Apogee Kroz series. The cheat file itself was nothing but an explanation of how to make TOWN.ZZT etc. editable through hexediting.
While looking through dosgames.com at a later stage I found the game again, because I looked at the last game on the list (Tim Sweeney's plan worked on me, at the very least) and was reminded of that first mention. I downloaded it, beat Town, Caves, Dungeons, and City (in that order, I think), and then searched for it on ... AltaVista, I think.
The first site I went to was Butz's old archive, and the first game I played was The Arena by one Herbie Pliland, which I found really cool. I downloaded pretty much random games from that site until I searched again and found zzt.org among the results. Somewhere along that point I found the editor and started chipping out what was to later become GREED - Part One, patching over the graphics when I discovered some games with STK and copied the toolkits. By this stage I don't think I'd even heard names like Zenith or drac0: most of the stuff I got was old, old, old.
The first game I downloaded from zzt.org was Life of a Player (2?), which was Game of the Month at the time. A short while after that I joined #darkdigital, was an ass and got kicked by lemmer a lot, met lonesomedwarf who was probably the first person who could be bothered with me, left for a bit, then returned a bit more sobered much later. I don't think anybody really even noticed me until early #ma days, which was probably a good thing. I can't even remember if I released GREED - Part One before or after I joined the community. The logs are probably lost forever.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:00 am
by Furry Jesus Freak
Which one of you faggots changed my name?! According to THE RULES, ANYONE IMPERSONATING SOMEONE ELSE IS TO BE BANNED, NO MATTER WHO/WHAT THEY ARE! CHANGE IT BACK OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:05 am
by Ando
Ha ha!
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:13 am
by Furry Jesus Freak
Ando wrote:Ha ha!
Piss off or I'll sick Nadir on you. >:(
Thank you, whoever is smart enough to be nice and change it back. I'm good now... *Proceeds to eat a Hershey bar*
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:29 am
by Ando
Milamber wrote:
Piss off or I'll sick Nadir on you. >:(
Thank you, whoever is smart enough to be nice and change it back. I'm good now... *Proceeds to eat a Hershey bar*
It was probably Quantum. He's a nice guy.
That laugh wasn't meant to be a personal attack, Jazzy. I just thought that it was really funny.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 8:52 am
by 833
Dosgames.com, went to ZZT.org, pissed about for ages, people moved to Z2, i followed and pissed about again.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:13 am
by 760
I found zzt when i went to dosgames.com
They had a link there and so i tried it and loved the site to bits.