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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:36 am
by MadTom
I confess to not being able to understand why there are people who have used both external editors, and still prefer the classic one. That's not to imply that KevEdit or ZZTAE result in "better" games, because they don't: Frost 1; Power was made in the classic editor, while there are plenty of games of deplorable quality on the archive made with the external editors.
It's just that I'd say that most of KevEdit's features, for example, are simply faster (or even less buggy) ways of doing something that would just take longer or be more convoluted in ZZT, like the use of STK toolkits, copying a tile or object, or cutting and pasting text. It's not like any of it "artificially enhances" ZZT or anything, like say fonts or ZPallette.
So is it just purist motives, or what?
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:38 am
by 760
I just want to ask MADTOM this.
What games have you made and which zzt/zztae/megazeus machines
E.G
Ha game (zzt)
Mothafu&^* (szzt)
Come on madtom. What games have you made.
The reason im asking is that im sure ive played some of your games but cant remember.
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:40 am
by Dr. Dos
you know there's a search button on the main page
and you can type in authors
and get their games.
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:48 am
by 760
Yes i know. But they'll all be for zzt most of them (wont they).
I cant remember but im sat at college so i probably dont have time to search.
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:56 pm
by MadTom
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:02 pm
by 760
Thank you.
Now i know where i know you from.
Mainly:
Burger
ZZTV
Greed 1+2
See that wasn't so hard was it.
Thank you and goodbye!
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:06 pm
by MadTom
That amuses me no end.
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:10 pm
by 760
Which means what exactly?
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:31 pm
by Ryan Ferneau
No sam til the dawn breaker! Pillhip isn't with the booty hop without!
That's what it means.
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:40 pm
by Zenith Nadir
madtom makes burgers alright
for the good burghers of sydney
this is madtom at work;

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:32 pm
by superbowl shuffle
I laughed so hard when I saw burger.
To answer your question, Madtom:
1. Purist motives.
2. It would take time to get used to the format of a new editor, and I can't be bothered with that.
3. I am so used to zzt that I can press buttons on instinct. Pure instinct, no less. Like s enter esc y p or k c enter w enter e l* enter l enter b pagedown up enter.
*arbitrary
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:11 pm
by nuero
Pal88 wrote:Thank you.
Now i know where i know you from.
Mainly:
Burger
ZZTV
Greed 1+2
See that wasn't so hard was it.
Thank you and goodbye!
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:22 pm
by Quantum P.
MadTom wrote:I confess to not being able to understand why there are people who have used both external editors, and still prefer the classic one . . . So is it just purist motives, or what?
A warrior up against a totalitarian society has to be self-reliant.
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:32 am
by 760
Has quantom p. read/ate a dictionary again?